Thursday, April 30, 2009

He Sings Over Me!

“The Lord your God is in your midst,

a mighty one who will save;

he will rejoice over you with gladness;

he will quiet you by his love;

he will exult over you with loud singing”

Zeph. 3:17

Have you ever had a verse that the Spirit just kept putting in front of you? This verse is just that for me. A couple weeks ago I watched an amazing video featuring Louie Giglio where he read the lyrics from the song “Mighty to Save”. This song seems to be inspired from, or at the very least quotes this verse. I could not stop singing, listening and dwelling on the truth found in this song. Follow that up with a few people, including a speaker from last weeks’ conference quoting this verse over the past couple of weeks. Then upon reading Sam Storms book “Convergence” he also speaks of this verse.

Needless to say today I quieted my heart, got on my knees and asked God to reveal what is going on. Why this verse?

Honestly I think it was God’s way to reassure me that He is here with me. That His purposes will not be thwarted. This has been an extremely heavy week at our church. With the excitement and busyness of our upcoming Clarus conference there have been a few funerals as well as tough situations involving marriages, relationships and put simply, sin.

I think this verse was put in front of me to show me, that God is bigger. God is mighty, He is Great, and Greater than I know or can fathom. That He is saving and renewing even in these valleys. And that in the chaos of everything I need to look upon the cross and be quieted by His Amazing Love! I need to learn to seek His face and sit at His feet.

When I do that He does not just smile or nod. He actually rejoices. More than that He sings over me, He sings loudly! Wow, God, the creator sings over me! Me, a rebel, a sinner, a loser who stresses out over such little things, God sings over me!

He sings because of His Son Jesus. Because His Son’s righteousness covers me. Because His Son took my punishment on the cross, and conquered death by His resurrection! I am a son of God, I am His child. Not “like a son”, but an actual son. I have been adopted into His family, and when I go to Dad, when I sit and love and enjoy Dad, He sings over me!

Awesome, Refreshing, Awakening!!!!

Be Ready For The Super-Natural

Do we get that last line from Sam Storms? Are we doing that?

“We must always preach the Word of God. We must always cultivate the fruit of the Spirit. We must always proclaim the gospel to the lost. But we must also always be available for the miraculous work of the Spirit, whose power resides within each of us who know and love the Lord Jesus Christ.” (pg. 77, Convergence, Sam Storms)

Wednesday, April 29, 2009

Fear of Association

"The fear of guilt by association has a far greater, more subtle, and more insidious influence on what we believe than most are willing to admit" (Sam Storms, Convergence, pg. 32)

John Piper Autobiographical Sketch

Last week while I was in Chicago I got to attend some lectures put on by the Carl F. H. Henry Theological Foundation. The presenters were John Piper and D.A. Carson. The topic was "The Pastor as Scholar and Scholar as Pastor".

Piper stated that he did not feel quite like a scholar, so instead of some deep academic lecture, he gave us a glimpse of his own journey to where he has come from.

This was very insightful and well worth your time to watch and listen to. Especially for many of you who here me talk or quote John Piper at The Well. Take a few minutes out to listen in to Dr. Piper's very personal story and testimony.

Click here to Watch the Video


Tuesday, April 28, 2009

A Good Study Tip

From Cloud of Witnesses:

Here’s an interesting snippet of news from The Chronicle of Higher Education.

The best way to study for an exam? Don’t just reread chapters and review notes — put everything away and then try to write down, or describe out loud, what you know. That’s the conclusion of two papers recently published in psychology journals. “After you’ve read something once, you’ve gotten what you’re going to get out of it,” one professor says, “and then you need to go out and start applying the information.”

The link to the article is here, but it’s only accessible with a subscription.

Monday, April 27, 2009

John Piper: We Need Valiant Men

Convicting and Encouraging, that sums this video clip up:

Costly Grace- Dietrich Bonhoeffer

"Costly grace is the treasure hidden in the field; for the sake of it a man’ will gladly go and self all that he has. It is the pearl of great price to buy which the merchant will sell all his goods. It is the kingly rule of Christ, for whose sake a man will pluck out the eye which causes him to stumble, it is the call of Jesus Christ at which the disciple leaves his nets and follows him.

Costly grace is the gospel which must be sought again and again and again, the gift which must be asked for, the door at which a man must knock. Such grace is costly because it calls us to follow, and it is grace because it calls us to follow Jesus Christ. It is costly because it costs a man his life, and it is grace because it gives a man the only true life. It is costly because it condemns sin, and grace because it justifies the sinner. Above all, it is costly because it cost God the life of his Son: “ye were bought at a price,” and what has cost God much cannot be cheap for us. Above all, it is grace because God did not reckon his Son too dear a price to pay for our life, but delivered him up for us. Costly grace is the Incarnation of God.

Costly grace is the sanctuary of God; it has to be protected from the world, and not thrown to the dogs. It is therefore the living word, the Word of God, which he speaks as it pleases him. Costly grace confronts us as a gracious call to follow Jesus. It comes as a word of forgiveness to the broken spirit and the contrite heart. Grace is costly because it compels a man to submit to the yoke of Christ and follow him; it is grace because Jesus says: “My yoke is easy and my burden is light.” (pg. 45, The Cost of Discipleship, Dietrich Bonhoeffer)

Sunday, April 26, 2009

Some Questions As You Start The Week

Working with young adults I hear the phrase “I’m so busy!” more times than I can count. So for all young adults and really everybody, let me ask you this question as we begin our week.

What will you do, who will you speak to, where will you spend your time that in 100 billion years will matter?

In other words what will you do this week that will make an eternal difference?

Who will you talk to about Jesus that may transform someone’s eternity?

What petty, superficial things will you get caught up in that will rust and be consumed by moth?

What prayers will you pray with the Kingdom of God in view?

What will you worry about that in the span of eternity will not matter?

When you look back on this week, will you have treasures laid up in heaven, or embarrassment as it all burns away?

What will you be "busy" with this week?

Just Askin’...

Saturday, April 25, 2009

Do I Smell Another Matthew McConaughey Movie??

This looks like a future movie, you know the kind "based on a true story".

From CNN:
EASTON, Pennsylvania (CNN) -- It's been dubbed the No. 1 high school rivalry in the United States. But last decade, Phillipsburg High School and Easton Area High School left the football field without a clear winner: a 7-7 tie

Back then, there was no overtime in high school games, and it's stung ever since. In gridiron parlance, it's known as "kissing your sister."

"I didn't know how to feel, stopping the end of my high school career being on a tie," said Bruce Lebitz, an inside linebacker for the 1993 Phillipsburg team.

That's about to change. The gridiron grudge match will be played this weekend. There will be no ties this time around. They're even breaking a century-old Turkey Day tradition, all in the name of who gets the bragging rights from that night so many years ago.

The players are now grown men in their early 30s. Hair is starting to turn gray, and waistlines have expanded. Some are family men, and most have full-time jobs. They had eight weeks to get back in game shape, and most jumped at the chance.

Thursday, April 23, 2009

Jesus Did Not Arrive Unannounced

This past Sunday, Ryan Kelly our teaching elder at DSC, gave a great message about how the whole of Scripture is about Jesus. This quote is a great summary to his message:

“The prophets searched. Angels longed to see. And the disciples didn’t understand. But Moses, the prophets, and all the Old Testament Scriptures had spoken about it — that Jesus would come, suffer, and then be glorified. God began to tell a story in the Old Testament, the ending of which the audience eagerly anticipated. But the Old Testament audience was left hanging. The plot was laid out but the climax was delayed. The unfinished story begged an ending. In Christ, God has provided the climax to the Old Testament story. Jesus did not arrive unannounced; his coming was declared in advance in the Old Testament, not just in explicit prophecies of the Messiah but by means of the stories of all of the events, characters, and circumstances in the Old Testament. God was telling a larger, overarching, unified story. From the account of creation in Genesis to the final stories of the return from exile, God progressively unfolded his plan of salvation. And the Old Testament account of that plan always pointed in some way to Christ.”

~ Tremper Longman III & J. Alan Groves (foreword) in George M. Schwab, Hope in the Midst of a Hostile World (Phillipsburg, NJ: P & R Publishing, 2006), x

Props: The Big Picture

Wednesday, April 22, 2009

Reflections From The Gospel Coalition

I have finally had a few minutes to sit down and think about the past 2 days here in Chicago at The Gospel Coalition and all I can say is, WOW!

Trying to take in all that has been shared by the speakers and workshop leaders is like trying to drink from a fire hose. It has been a great 2 days and the things learned truly are life changing if allowed to be. Whether it was the amazing talk on idols by Tim Keller, the genuine humility and honesty of Mark Driscoll, the fire and passion of John Piper and K. Edward Copeland, the pastoral exhorts from Phil Ryken and Bryan Chapell, or amazing testimony of A. Fernando, it has truly been a blessing to hear from such men.

Here are a few reflections:

1. John Piper's message was by far one of the most inspiring and exegetical messages I have heard. His call for pastors to fan the flame with the Word of God, "the white hot" flame of the gospel.

2. Mark Driscoll is a teachable, humble and growing pastor. His talk while probably being criticized and dissected by many was yes filled with 40 points, but also filled with humility and recognition of his own inadequacies. Driscoll has taken many shots from every side, but he is a man of integrity and passion for young men who want people to know Jesus. Men that have been influenced by Mark have become some of the most loving and willing mentors I know. I could not imagine what it felt like to be Mark and know that the group he talked to last night was probably filled with many who were waiting for him to slip, to do that with grace and love is a praise to God for Mark.

3. God has spoken to me along with many others through these men, and the message has been clear and convicting. Preach the gospel, proclaim God's truth to ALL, be courageous and fan the flame of the gospel, the power of God, in face of persecution, criticism and suffering, and do it in love and gentleness.

4. On a personal note, I still feel like a fish out of water at these conferences. I did not grow up in the church, I don't wear khakis and I don't get the Christian sub-culture sometimes. These times though have always provided a great world of learning and humility which I need, always.

All in all it has been a great conference and I feel like I have learned a lot and like always conviction and encouragement is what I take back with me.

Here are a few links to notes from some of the talks:

John Piper: Manuscript and Audio

Some More of Michael Jordan

Z had a post last week that made me aware about a new generation that sees the #23 and thinks Lebron...WRONG!!!

#23 will always and forever symbolize Michael "Air" Jordan the greatest player ever. Maybe in 13 years we can debate Lebron's greatness, although Jordan never lost in the Finals. James is a great player, Jordan is a Legendary Icon.

Here is a taste of what I mean:

Tuesday, April 21, 2009

Overseas Interview with Mark Driscoll

This is a good introduction to who Mark Driscoll is and what he sees as his mission to the city of Seattle. Mark is one of the speakers at the Gospel Coalition, in fact he is speaking on the first day, yes I am stoked!
This interview was given when Mark was in Sydney this past summer.

Boston vs Chicago, Bird vs Jordan

In honor of my trip to Chicago, as well as the current 1st round NBA playoffs between Chicago and Boston, here is a little trip down memory lane courtesy of ESPN.

April 20th, 1986, yes that is 23 years ago:

Heading Out to Chicago

I, along with a few other dudes from DSC are flying to Chicago this morning. We will be attending the 2009 Gospel Coalition Conference. Prayer for safe trip, along with a calm heart for me (yes I am a bit nervous when it comes to flying) is appreciated. I hope to update and maybe pseudo-blog this conference during the week.

See ya in the town of Jordan!

Below is a video to give you a bit of info. about the conference:

Monday, April 20, 2009

This is Legit!

Props: Pure Church

How Mark Driscoll Leads

Mark seems to take a lot of shots in the blog world, this personal look at how Driscoll leads does not come from a dude 100's of miles away who has never interacted with Mark like many who criticize, but from his friend and fellow Mars Hill elder Scott Thomas. Thomas is also one of the directors of the Acts 29 church planting network.
Here is a little summary of what Scott says about Mark.

Mark is just a man. But he is a leader that God is using to influence many people for the gospel. Even those in Mars Hill Church sometimes misunderstand his passion to proclaim the gospel. But he leads in a way that points people to Jesus, even if he has to yell at you to wake up and see the victorious Jesus awaiting His return.

Reading Revelation

Michael Gorman author of "Apostle of the Crucified Lord: A Theological Introduction to Paul and His Letters" tells us a few points that a study of the book of Revelation should leave us with. His list alone stirs feelings of worship and admiration of our victorious Lamb, Jesus!

This will likely be my last post for a while on Revelation, but it is an important one, from my perspective. If we read Revelation as a theopoetic and theopolitical writing focused on the reign of God and of the slaughtered Lamb, rather than as a script about the end of history (see previous posts), what kind of spirituality emerges from that reading? I suggest the following:

1. Worship

2. Realism

3. Faithfulness and Prophetic Resistance

4. Discernment and Vision

5. Courageous Nonviolent Warfare

6. Embodied Communal Witness and Mission

7. Hope

  1. A spirituality of worship. Revelation summons us to worship God the creator and redeemer, the Alpha and Omega, who reigns! It summons us to worship Jesus the redeemer, the slaughtered Lamb, the Alpha and Omega, who is Lord! The reign of God is not merely future or past but present. The summons to worship is therefore inseparable from allegiance. God in Christ both demands all and offers all
  2. A spirituality of realism. Revelation summons us to live cognizant of the realities of evil and empire. Evil is real. Empire is now—not merely future or past but present. Empire, by nature, makes seductive blasphemous and immoral claims and engages in corollary practices that bring disorder to both vertical (people-God) and horizontal (people-people) human relations, promising life but delivering death—both physical and spiritual.
  3. A spirituality of faithfulness and prophetic resistance. The Christian church is easily seduced by Empire’s idolatry and immorality because these claims and practices are often invested with religious meaning and authority. In the context of “civil religion,” the church is called to “come out.” In the midst of Empire, the church is called to resistance in word and deed as the inevitable corollary of faithfulness to God, a call that requires prophetic spiritual discernment provided by God’s Spirit, and a vocation that may result in various kinds of suffering.
  4. A spirituality of discernment and vision. The spiritual discernment required of the church, in turn, requires an alternative vision of God and of reality that unveils and challenges Empire, a vision in need of the Spirit’s wisdom to see and apply. This takes us back to the need for worship.
  5. A spirituality of courageous nonviolent warfare. The resistance required of Christians can be likened to warfare in search of victory. But because this victory is only the victory of the victorious slaughtered lamb, Christian resistance to Empire conforms to the pattern of Jesus Christ and of his apostles and saints: faithful, true, courageous, just, and nonviolent.
  6. A spirituality of embodied communal witness and mission. Christian resistance, like warfare, is not passive but active. It consists of the formation of communities and individuals who pledge allegiance to God alone; live in nonviolent love toward friends and enemies alike; leave vengeance to God but bear witness to God’s coming judgment and salvation; create, by God’s Spirit, mini-cultures of life as alternatives to Empire’s culture of death; and invite all who desire life with God to repent and worship God and the Lamb. The will of God is for all to follow the Lamb and participate in the present and coming life of God-with-us forever.
  7. A spirituality of hope. God the creator and Christ the redeemer take evil and injustice seriously and are about both to judge humanity and to renew the cosmos. We hope and long for the healing of the nations

The last word would simply be Follow. Follow the Lamb. Follow him out of empire but also, paradoxically, into empire: into the dark corners of empire, into those places where the vision of God and the Lamb is most needed, where death needs to be replaced with life, where we can bear witness in word and life to the coming new creation, where there will be life-giving water for all, healing for the nations, a new heavens and new earth liberated from the effects of our sin, and the perpetual presence of the living God, in whom we can be both lost and found in eternal wonder, awe, and praise. Giving flesh to such a vision is no small challenge.

Perhaps it would not be too bold to suggest that if we are to be a faithful church in the 21st century, the book of Revelation, and especially its vision of the slaughtered, victorious, and coming Lamb, needs to become more central to our worship, our spirituality, our practices. Perhaps, in a profound way, the last book of the Bible needs to become the church’s first book.

Check out Gorman's blog "Cross Talk"

Saturday, April 18, 2009

What Thales Leites Needs To Do To Win Tonight

Tonight at UFC 97 Anderson "Spider" Silva defends his middle weight belt against Thales Leites.No one is giving Leites much of a chance, including myself. Silva is almost unstoppable, and outside crazy once in a lifetime submissions he will not lose tonight. Want proof? Watch what this dude had to do to beat the "Spider" back in Pride.

Friday, April 17, 2009

Piper Interviews Chandler

From Desiring God, John Piper does a sit down 4 part interview with Matt Chandler.

After our pastors conference in February, John Piper sat down with Matt Chandler for a conversation that is now available in 4 parts.

  • Part 1 - Chandler tells his story up to about 20 years old.
  • Part 2 - More on Chandler's story, through becoming a pastor.
  • Part 3 - Chandler's thoughts on being a pastor, a Calvinist, and a Complementarian.
  • Part 4 - Chandler and Piper finish up with some advice for pastor.

Thursday, April 16, 2009

Jesus Wants The Rose!!

Come from a jacked up home? Do you feel like sin has beaten the crap out of you? Do you feel broken inside? HEAR MATT CHANDLER, SOAK IN THIS VIDEO AND TRUTH!!!

Props: Z and Desiring God

Matt Chandler: A Missional Rebuke and Plea

If this quote from Matt Chandler's Easter Sermon does not encourage and devastate you all at once, read it again...
"Ladies how many bible studies are we going to do, I am just saying, can we maybe run some of the plays instead of just studying them? Men, how many bible studies we gonna do, how much you going to study before you start to play? I mean that’s what makes the thing so stupid down here. Everybody can talk it, nobody wants to engage anybody with it. Or at least very few of us do. Why? Well cause I have a lust issue. Well OK, submit to Christ, get in recovery, and live on mission, it will reveal all that stuff, it will be horrible, God will just rip it out of you and replace it with His grace and mercy, it will be awesome in the end. I mean if you’re waiting till you’re perfect to live life on mission you’re going to die without much mission. It’s coming! Do you get this? Do you get that 2000 years ago, in fact farther back than than He told Abram, “This is how it’s going down.” and it has stayed true to the line right up till now where a massive portion of Africa has become believers, a massive portion of China has become believers, South America blowing up with the gospel. The gospel is penetrating the world, do you know how this ends? With you and me in front of Him with the Kingdom of God, new heaven, new earth coming down, no more injustice, no more pain, no more sorrow, God’s redeemed, God’s elect, God’s Kingdom, Kingdom of God, established! Now do you think anybody is going to give a trash how much money you have right now? How much comfort you have right now? Who’s cool and who’s not? Who drove what and who didn’t? Who was well liked in the neighborhood and who wasn’t? You think ANY of that is going to matter? No one will care! But a lot of people will be embarrassed."
Matt is the lead pastor of The Village Church in Texas.

Click Here to Download the entire sermon, it is well worth your time!

Wednesday, April 15, 2009

All Dudes Watch This Now!

Working in college ministry has done one thing for sure, opened my eyes to the amount of little boys there are in their 20's who pretend to be men, Mark Driscoll hits the nail on the head.

Props: K.Moore

Resurrection Sermons

Over at Next they have posted some sermons dealing with the resurrection. Fitting since it is just after Easter. Also fitting because last night I preached about the resurrection to The Well.

So if you went to The Well and want more insight from dudes light-years ahead of me on the smart scale and gifted scale, check these sermons out!

Joshua Harris
The Resurrection and the Life
John 11:1-44

Sinclair Ferguson
Does the Resurrection Really Matter
1 Corinthians 15:1-20

D.A. Carson
Why Doubt the Resurrection - VIDEO
Why Doubt the Resurrection - AUDIO
John 20:24-31

Kevin DeYoung
Worthy Is The Scapegoat
Lev 16

C.J. Mahaney
Death Swallowed Up In Victory
1 Corinthians 15:17

Last, in the April Webzine we featured Rick Gamache’s crucifixion narrative. He read it at his church on Good Friday and, after listening to it, I can tell you that even if you’ve read it before it’s a different experience to hear him read it out loud. You can get the audio here.

Soak This Up!

Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written, "Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree." Galatians 3:13

"Our most merciful Father, seeing us to be oppressed and overwhelmed with the curse of the law . . . sent his only Son into the world and laid upon him all the sins of all men, saying, 'You be Peter that denier, Paul that persecutor, blasphemer and cruel oppressor, David that adulterer, that sinner who ate the apple in Paradise, that thief who hung upon the cross, and briefly, you be the person who has committed the sins of all men. See therefore that you pay and satisfy for them.'"

Martin Luther, commenting on Galatians 3:13.

Props: Ray Ortlund Jr. (Yes the same Ray Ortlund Jr. that is coming to Clarus)

Thursday, April 09, 2009


Tonight He ate and drank with His disciples...

Tonight He was betrayed by one of his friends...

Tonight He entered a garden, sorrowful almost to the point of death...

Tonight He sat before His Father and prayed...

Tonight His men slept as He wept...

Tonight He trembled before the cup He was about to drink...

Tonight He called out to His Father and was answered with silence...

Tonight He said “Not my will but yours”...

Tonight His Love would sustain...

Wednesday, April 08, 2009

He's My King, I Wonder If You Know Him

Here is a video we showed last night at The Well as we get ready for Easter.

That's My King! from Albert Martin on Vimeo.

Tuesday, April 07, 2009

Mercy Ministry v.s. Social Gospel-Keller, Carson and Piper

D.A. Carson, John Piper and Tim Keller have given us a series of conversations about various topics that can be watched over at The Gospel Coalition website. Below is the first episode dealing with how pastors and churches should handle the subject of mercy ministry.

John Piper's initial response is convicting and so true.

David Brooks: The End of Philosophy

David Brooks, columnist for the New York Times, sees a change in the way we look at philosophy and evolution due to the fact that we are moral creatures who have absolute right and wrongs.

The rise and now dominance of this emotional approach to morality is an epochal change. It challenges all sorts of traditions. It challenges the bookish way philosophy is conceived by most people. It challenges the Talmudic tradition, with its hyper-rational scrutiny of texts. It challenges the new atheists, who see themselves involved in a war of reason against faith and who have an unwarranted faith in the power of pure reason and in the purity of their own reasoning.

Finally, it should also challenge the very scientists who study morality. They’re good at explaining how people make judgments about harm and fairness, but they still struggle to explain the feelings of awe, transcendence, patriotism, joy and self-sacrifice, which are not ancillary to most people’s moral experiences, but central. The evolutionary approach also leads many scientists to neglect the concept of individual responsibility and makes it hard for them to appreciate that most people struggle toward goodness, not as a means, but as an end in itself.

Click here for more from his NY Times Column

Monday, April 06, 2009

Community of Grace

Tim Chester over at Resurgence shares about how to develop and cultivate communities of grace, something we desperately need in American churches.

Here are the 7 marks that make a Community of Grace:

1. Make the connections

2. Welcome the mess

3. Stop pretending

4. Stop performing

5. Eat and drink with broken people

6. Give people time to change

7. Focus on the heart

Click here for detail of each one of these marks.

There Will Be A Day-Jeremy Camp

I have been battling a cold the past 3 days and it has no sign of relenting, so the thought of a day with no more sickness, even little annoying colds is pretty sweet!


Thursday, April 02, 2009


Yes I Twitter, but I also make fun of myself, so this video is perfect!

Props:Evangelical Outpost

Wednesday, April 01, 2009

Preach Dangerously!

Craig Groeschel:

Pastor, you are called to preach a dangerous message.

(Notice I didn’t say an “edgy” message. There is a big difference between dangerous and edgy.)

  • Preaching the Gospel of Christ is offensive to men. If you’re being criticized for your sex talks and creative marketing and never for preaching Christ, something might be wrong with your preaching.
  • Preaching God’s standards will make some people mad. If your sermons always make people feel better about themselves and you never confront their sin, they won’t likely see their need for a Savior.
  • Preaching about the miraculous power of God stirs people up. If your typical message is five steps to a better life, you may be overlooking the one step of truly taking God at His word.

I pray our messages become more Spirit-filled, Scripture-packed, and God-annointed!

Humility and Grace, Camp and Driscoll

This post by Steve Camp made my day. Camp has been a vocal critique of Mark Driscoll. At times his commentary has crossed the line to just mean and vindictive (which he admits in this post). What is amazing is that recently Mark and Steve talked and seemed to have reconciled and allowed "love to cover" these differences. This is what the Kingdom is like, where people who do differ on open handed issues can reconcile to each other through humility and love because of a Greater Love already given to them. This is what makes the gospel so amazing in lives of such diverse people!

I encourage you to read this post by Steve Camp, here is a quick excerpt of how Camp starts off this post:

Some of you seeing me post another article about Mark Driscoll are expecting me to come out of the box swinging, prepared to challenge, do battle against, or slice and dice with some well versed clever sarcasm about Mark and his TV appearance. Well, I hate to disappoint you, but today that will not be happening.

Props: Acts 29

Praise Band Trailer

Movies like this is what made me hesitate when thinking through seeing "Fireproof". Fireproof was awesome and I encourage everyone to see it, a bit cheesy, but next to this movie it is like Dark Knight!

Props: Brent